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IP and server logging

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ijlf

IP and server logging

Postby ijlf » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:16 am

Hi, I'd like to know your thoughts about this post -
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/6i6b6h/ip_and_server_logging/


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odfsa

Re: IP and server logging

Postby odfsa » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:35 pm

Just look at Protonmail's own warrant canary before even listening to them.
Public consensus says in merit that they are good at what they can do/offer - but perhaps it is just security theatre. Or security theatre in the making.

To be simple .. they could be following a model similar to Germany's ISP/telco requirements in that they have to retain all connection timestamps and associated connection data. These cannot be turned off and are available to authorities. Logging of other details/metadata eg sites visited or files downloaded etc is not mandatory (unless requested by Swiss court) hence they do not log these details and state it clearly.

Having and/or knowing your IP / metadata is not the same as willfully turning it over.
Sure I can store it ... but would or/ would i rather I turn it over ?
Two entirely different things altogether. But with zero logs - nothing can be handed over. Not even a timestamp (with such a vague definition .. i doubt what they actually define as timestamps).

wrt to protonmail service they have your ''encrypted'' private keys - they have your data - they own you.
If they somehow obtained your passphrase (ie for the protonmail service) , they can retroactively read/turn over all your email correspondences.

Ghostmail and Lavabit .. for all the right reasons .. are/were better options and had been a prime base for many privacy conscious users until they were compelled to cease offering public email.

Even Scryptmail appears promising


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